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littlewoman (lovingyou)
Intermediate Member Username: lovingyou
Post Number: 2572 Registered: 1-2008
| | Posted on Friday, January 22, 2010 - 6:03 pm: |
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Big-Ego: I see...It was almost the same wait for me.... Yes, i am happy with my MTM gown... but well... u noe what i mean.. |
   
BIG~ego (big~ego)
New member Username: big~ego
Post Number: 26 Registered: 10-2009
| | Posted on Friday, January 22, 2010 - 10:11 pm: |
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Littlewoman: Hmm i guess thats the normal waiting time for those who chose X-zen bah... Ya understand what u mean... Well as long u are happy w ur gown, thats most impt for a bride ya.... So how did u find ur AD pics and video? Were they up to ur expectations? |
   
littlewoman (lovingyou)
Intermediate Member Username: lovingyou
Post Number: 2573 Registered: 1-2008
| | Posted on Monday, January 25, 2010 - 9:35 am: |
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Big-ego: Yes, I am very happy with the gowns that I tailor made outside... They are very nice and of coz unique, as custom-made accordingly to what I wanted... The video is not bad... but not the pics though... perhaps my expectations are too high?  |
   
BIG~ego (big~ego)
New member Username: big~ego
Post Number: 27 Registered: 10-2009
| | Posted on Monday, January 25, 2010 - 10:08 am: |
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Littlewoman: Hmm tats gd... my wife was also quite pleased w her MTM gown too... Nah i dun think ur expectations were too high... I was also not pleased w the pics taken...Sort of regretted taht we chose their photographer.... Coz when i saw my friends pics, it was like so much nicer.... |
   
littlewoman (lovingyou)
Intermediate Member Username: lovingyou
Post Number: 2580 Registered: 1-2008
| | Posted on Monday, January 25, 2010 - 5:52 pm: |
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Big-Ego: oh realli? I have the same feeling... But luckily the video not that bad... Which kinda of make up for it... Jus sad that the happy moments weren't captured well on photos... |
   
weixiang (weixiang_06)
Junior Member Username: weixiang_06
Post Number: 265 Registered: 6-2009
| | Posted on Monday, January 25, 2010 - 7:42 pm: |
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well, apparently these bunlded AD photographers are actually free lancers who might have some working relationship with the bridal shop.. for me, i prefer to choose my own AD photographer myself... hence for my own BS, i did not include that in the package =) pricing wise is of course much cheaper too... well, i guess yi fen qian yi fen hou... |
   
weixiang (weixiang_06)
Junior Member Username: weixiang_06
Post Number: 266 Registered: 6-2009
| | Posted on Monday, January 25, 2010 - 7:43 pm: |
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do you all know of this thing called outsourcing? =) think along this line... a good AD PG is not cheap, can easily be up to a couple of thousand of dollars.. =) |
   
BIG~ego (big~ego)
New member Username: big~ego
Post Number: 28 Registered: 10-2009
| | Posted on Monday, January 25, 2010 - 11:28 pm: |
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Weixiang: I understand that some of the AD photographers r free lancers and the AD videographers are also free lancers.. But its nt so much of yi fen qian yi fen huo. I paid good money so i expect good pics n videos... Just becoz they r freelancers, they cn produce such quality. Imagine what that says of the studio if they employ such people???? And after such pics are taken, they provide such bad service to their customers.... I dun think that is acceptable...... Littlewoman: Hmm same here, my wife was commenting that the pics did not capture our joy that night. Who was ur AD photographer? |
   
littlewoman (lovingyou)
Intermediate Member Username: lovingyou
Post Number: 2583 Registered: 1-2008
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 26, 2010 - 12:07 pm: |
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Agree with Big-Ego... moreover, I think the amount we paid are rather substantial or should I say rather market rate? Big-Ego: I had PM you the name... Not nice to mention it here afterall. Are they ur photographer/videographer as well? I think my videographer not too bad though..  |
   
BIG~ego (big~ego)
New member Username: big~ego
Post Number: 29 Registered: 10-2009
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 26, 2010 - 12:22 pm: |
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Littlewoman: ya true, we r paying market rate to say the least so of coz i wld expect a certain level of standard n service frm them.... If they cnt even do the minimum, then too bad they r getting dis-satisfied customers.... They always try to cover themselves by pinning the blame on the customers. I really detest such personnel. Little woman: i will reply to ur msg in private. Dun wish to name names here too. If i nt wrong, one of the names u mentioned is familiar to mi coz i dun really rem their names... |
   
*~Jacko~* (jacko)
New member Username: jacko
Post Number: 19 Registered: 2-2007
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 26, 2010 - 12:50 pm: |
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Hi littlewoman & BIG~ego, Can I know the name of AD photographer & videographer? Thanks |
   
weixiang (weixiang_06)
Junior Member Username: weixiang_06
Post Number: 272 Registered: 6-2009
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 26, 2010 - 1:57 pm: |
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Big Ego, how much did you pay for the actual day photography? I guess if its from x-zen, its together as a bundle, isn't it? I am not so certain about it but i have come across package deals, which the price of AD PG is already included in the all-in package which is in the region of 3+++k... which imho is value for money... My AD PG cost me $1++k, this is my personal selection which does not have any tie up with BS. When I was actively searching for AD PG, some very nice BTBs share with me packages (solely for AD PG) which are easily in the range of 2+k, top ones can even hit 3.5-4k.... really fainted... i admit i do not have the budget to set aside 4k just solely for AD PG... In all, my combined AD PG + VG (from separate vendors) cost me close to ($1++k & $2++k )$3.5k... My BS package is in the region of $3+k.. hope it helps... Peronsally, i feel its really alot of money solely for preserving memories... i have some brides who told me its hard to source for a good AD PG for less than $1k? i still have those emails though... i was in for a shock when i saw the prices quoted... I did check with my own BS if i were to engage AD PG, they reverted saying it will be about $450... however, they did mention it will be outsourced to PGs who have working relationships with them... hope it helps. =) not sure whether its the same for X-Zen? BIG-ego, kindly advice... really not sure.. BIG ego, you can PM me in private as well.. thank you =) |
   
weixiang (weixiang_06)
Junior Member Username: weixiang_06
Post Number: 273 Registered: 6-2009
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 26, 2010 - 2:01 pm: |
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Big ego, one thing if one does not want the AD PG package from X-Zen, how much can one deduct from the package? Like i understand, if one does not want the Bridal Car, deduct $200 or so... btw, i agree that there must be some standard of the freelancers which the BS are employing.. however, being on the safe side, i have decided to engage my own PG & VG. |
   
littlewoman (lovingyou)
Intermediate Member Username: lovingyou
Post Number: 2594 Registered: 1-2008
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 26, 2010 - 4:53 pm: |
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Big-ego: Shall wait for your PM.. perhaps they are all the same ppl? weixiang: it realli depends and the price varies. My friend has her PG and VG from one of the free-lancers and it costs less than S$2,5K in total, indeed, the pics turn out to be realli great. I paid about the upper range of S$3K plus for the whole package (just the AD VG and PG)... Jacko: Have u already signed up a package with them? When is ur AD? |
   
*~Jacko~* (jacko)
New member Username: jacko
Post Number: 20 Registered: 2-2007
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 26, 2010 - 4:57 pm: |
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yaP. I signed up with them last year. AD will be early this year.. Did anyone get AD VG from X-zen? |
   
BIG~ego (big~ego)
New member Username: big~ego
Post Number: 30 Registered: 10-2009
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 26, 2010 - 5:19 pm: |
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Jacko: does ur package include MTM gown? I gt AD VG frm thm also. Did u also sign up their AD VG & PG? Did u sign up for their overseas package or only their local shoot? Weixiang: i paid almost 2k plus for both AD VG & PG... So basically almost the same as what u wld nd to pay out there. Tats y i m so frustrated w the quality of service n n the pics that i gt frm them. But its nt true tat u cnt find gd AD PG for less thn 1k... U just nd to go online n search... There r many freelancers n they also allow u to hav a look at their previous works... So do try to go online, there r lots of freelancers n companies offering tat service. I heard frm my friends who signed up w other BS, tat if they choose nt to hav a MTM gown, they may hav a reduction of the package price or maybe some other benefits.... As for AD PG, I m afraid u might nd to check w x-zen on their policy or their stand on this. Knowing hw they work, i m keeping my fingers crossed for u.... |
   
weixiang (weixiang_06)
Junior Member Username: weixiang_06
Post Number: 274 Registered: 6-2009
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 26, 2010 - 7:22 pm: |
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Big Edo, you paid almost 2k in top ups? wow... then its really about practically market rate... now i know where you are coming from, about being frustrated with the quality of service and prices... well, let's all keep our fingers crossed... thanks BIG-Ego... littlewoman, for your AD PG & VG are sourced directly from X-Zen? for the upper range of $3k plus, you could have many PG & VG to select from... hope all turns out to be fine for everyone.... wedding is an expensive affair, but then end of the day, let us just enjoy the preparation and process... |
   
BIG~ego (big~ego)
New member Username: big~ego
Post Number: 31 Registered: 10-2009
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 26, 2010 - 10:00 pm: |
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Weixiang: Ya now u noe where i m coming from ya... Its not tat i m unreasonable.. But looking at the prices that i m paying, i dun think its wrong of mi to expect certain standards of service rite... By the way, do keep us updated on ur part k |
   
littlewoman (lovingyou)
Intermediate Member Username: lovingyou
Post Number: 2602 Registered: 1-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 27, 2010 - 10:31 am: |
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Jacko: I took an AD package that includes AD PG and VG... with x-zen... weixiang: Exactly that is my point... Wedding is once in a lifetime event, it can never be redone... That explains my disappointment when I saw my photos in one way or another... Their replies aren't consoling as well.. But I am glad that my VG turns out to be rather okay, this kinda of make up for one way or another.  |
   
Wing (cecer)
New member Username: cecer
Post Number: 21 Registered: 7-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 27, 2010 - 11:45 pm: |
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Big-Ego& Feli: but i'm just a bit fed up... it's like they will keep telling u this gown is for S size... there's no way they can alter to become a L... i told them i don wan red, pink and purple and they still keep pushing those colours to me.. Maybe those are the ones of my size? I wanted to have cheongsam as well, but i've not chosen gowns for AD yet.. i'm actually having my AD photographer with them which comes in a bundle. And since i signed up as an earlier batch, i was informed that there's no more videography for oversea shooting. Instead they have this 3D thingy... which i find similar to montage. hope their AD WG & EG are not as disappointing |
   
Wing (cecer)
New member Username: cecer
Post Number: 22 Registered: 7-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 27, 2010 - 11:47 pm: |
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littlewoman: is their AD photo really disappointing?....i still havent look for PG & VG yet.... |
   
littlewoman (lovingyou)
Intermediate Member Username: lovingyou
Post Number: 2630 Registered: 1-2008
| | Posted on Thursday, January 28, 2010 - 10:12 am: |
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Wing: I think u shld tell them firmly that u dun like those colors and instead ask them to come out with an alternative proposal... Btw, are u going to MTM ur WG? I mean they do not expect every single bride to be small sizes isn't it? Overseas videography shld come together as a package for overseas photography... Does it mean that they do not have any available slots or? Hmm... u have a free AD PG tied in ya? Personally, I feel that it is not up to my expectations as I can't recap the joy I had on my big day from the photos, was rather sad when I see that... |
   
BIG~ego (big~ego)
New member Username: big~ego
Post Number: 32 Registered: 10-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, January 28, 2010 - 12:21 pm: |
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Wing: I agree with littlewoman, do not step back from ur preferences. Do push on and make sure they fulfil ur requests. After all this is ur wedding and as a BS, they shld do all they cn to make sure u hav a wonderful day and not get u to do whatever is convenient for them... As i hav earlier mentioned in my posts, they cn be quite lazy at times so i do not know if thats the reason why they refuse to alter ur gowns. But if u really see one that u like, do make sure they alter it to ur liking.... As for the AD photographer, i cn only say hope u get a good one, as my AD PG was not quite up to our standards. So hopefully, u r able to get a better PG. |
   
littlewoman (lovingyou)
Intermediate Member Username: lovingyou
Post Number: 2642 Registered: 1-2008
| | Posted on Thursday, January 28, 2010 - 2:32 pm: |
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Big-ego: Looks like u are rather unhappy with the way they work? Wing: Some of the outsource VG doesn't work with other PG... u might consider this when u do ur research prior making any decisions.  |
   
BIG~ego (big~ego)
New member Username: big~ego
Post Number: 33 Registered: 10-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, January 28, 2010 - 9:32 pm: |
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Littlewoman: Ya its true that i m rather unhappy with their service. Like I say, it could be better... Wing: Ya true, some of them work in teams, so it is better to get from the same company....so that the chemistry is there... |
   
Wing (cecer)
New member Username: cecer
Post Number: 23 Registered: 7-2008
| | Posted on Friday, January 29, 2010 - 12:13 pm: |
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littlewoman & Big~ego:thank you so much for your advices.... i will stand firm when come to choosing gown for AD. since i've choosen the AD PG, so i don have a MTM gown...was wondering can i change the AD PG to sth else... It seems tat their oversea shooting are quite fully book now.... |
   
BIG~ego (big~ego)
New member Username: big~ego
Post Number: 34 Registered: 10-2009
| | Posted on Friday, January 29, 2010 - 12:30 pm: |
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Wing: Your welcome. Glad to be of some help here.... Hmm as u have already chosen to take the AD PG, it would be hard for u to change... But u cn still try,no harm but given the Bs nature, even if they r willing to accept tat u do not wish for their AD PG, they might nt be willing to exchange a MTM gown for u... U might nd to top up for it, which i feel is not worth it. |
   
littlewoman (lovingyou)
Intermediate Member Username: lovingyou
Post Number: 2649 Registered: 1-2008
| | Posted on Saturday, January 30, 2010 - 12:43 am: |
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Hmm... Why not try voicing out and see what they have to offer first? Some PG don't work with other PGs... |
   
sn0w (sn0w)
Junior Member Username: sn0w
Post Number: 159 Registered: 5-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, March 04, 2010 - 12:54 am: |
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hi i'm back to this thread after a long time. Wing can u activate ur pm? thks! I dunno if u guys realise? They always talk behind their custs back..esp of the custs insist on their ways. i've been there several times and always hear them complaining abt other custs in front of us. How unprofessional! i'm feeling wat u guys feel too abt them, but i'm trying to accept it and make the best out of it since there's no other choices. |
   
littlewoman (lovingyou)
Intermediate Member Username: lovingyou
Post Number: 2937 Registered: 1-2008
| | Posted on Monday, March 08, 2010 - 9:21 am: |
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snOw: hmm.. probably coz they assume that we wun know who they are talking? |
   
Missy (wanlinz)
New member Username: wanlinz
Post Number: 16 Registered: 6-2009
| | Posted on Friday, March 12, 2010 - 9:47 pm: |
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What did they complaint about? Maybe they complaint about me too cos i got complaint abt their photo alblum..Haha.. |
   
weixiang (weixiang_06)
Junior Member Username: weixiang_06
Post Number: 298 Registered: 6-2009
| | Posted on Monday, March 15, 2010 - 12:14 am: |
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mmz... i would like to ask.. for example if the photos which they have taken turned out to be blurry and camera shake due to the skills of the photographer.. whose fault would that be? talking behind their customers back... mmz.. if they were that good.. customers will not even want to complain... |
   
littlewoman (lovingyou)
Intermediate Member Username: lovingyou
Post Number: 2956 Registered: 1-2008
| | Posted on Monday, March 15, 2010 - 4:22 pm: |
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Weixiang: are all the photos like these? |
   
weixiang (weixiang_06)
Junior Member Username: weixiang_06
Post Number: 302 Registered: 6-2009
| | Posted on Monday, March 15, 2010 - 10:19 pm: |
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littlewoman, dun get me wrong.. i am not saying X-Zen photos are like this... i am just quoting an example... dun read my post out of context  |
   
sn0w (sn0w)
Junior Member Username: sn0w
Post Number: 161 Registered: 5-2009
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 16, 2010 - 12:53 am: |
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They just want everyone to listen to wat they say,if u have diff feel, they will... 'nuff said. littlewoman: they dun care even if i knw who they complaining abt. |
   
littlewoman (lovingyou)
Intermediate Member Username: lovingyou
Post Number: 2966 Registered: 1-2008
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 16, 2010 - 9:36 am: |
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weixiang: I am not assuming anything...a general qn on my part too... Hmm... I hope u aren't referring to AD photos, else, I can imagine how the couple might feel.... snOw: hmm... well... not all people practices professionalism? |
   
weixiang (weixiang_06)
Junior Member Username: weixiang_06
Post Number: 303 Registered: 6-2009
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 16, 2010 - 10:04 am: |
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littlewoman, all in all... its good for all fellow BTBs to do their research thoroughly prior to signing on the dotted line.. so far, i have received excellent services from my appointed hotel, BS, VG & PG... they are all separate from one another... i have just completed my ROM, now awaiting my customary which is to be held next Jan... ^^ |
   
littlewoman (lovingyou)
Intermediate Member Username: lovingyou
Post Number: 2995 Registered: 1-2008
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 16, 2010 - 2:48 pm: |
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Congrats... YEs, I agree... Once in a lifetime, of coz we want the best memories.... |
   
weixiang (weixiang_06)
Junior Member Username: weixiang_06
Post Number: 306 Registered: 6-2009
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 16, 2010 - 7:55 pm: |
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littlewoman, funny.. my separate thread was deleted away... mmz... but anyway, just a kind advice to all BTBs intending to finalise their BS... do take the time down to their shop, look at their gowns and etc... by then you can make the informed choice  |
   
littlewoman (lovingyou)
Intermediate Member Username: lovingyou
Post Number: 3016 Registered: 1-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 17, 2010 - 10:53 am: |
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Weixiang: Agree with you. Don't hurry on any signing for any perks etc... do proper research, read up before agreeing to any packages...  |
   
sn0w (sn0w)
Junior Member Username: sn0w
Post Number: 163 Registered: 5-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 17, 2010 - 11:31 pm: |
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I agree with weixiang too. Be firm and research well. |
   
Wing (cecer)
New member Username: cecer
Post Number: 24 Registered: 7-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 31, 2010 - 5:01 pm: |
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Hi all... havent visit the tread for quite awhile. We just came back from Phuket PS. Actually we had lots of fun and we really enjoyed it. |
   
Missy (wanlinz)
New member Username: wanlinz
Post Number: 24 Registered: 6-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, May 27, 2010 - 2:01 pm: |
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Littlewoman: Can you let me know which photographer you choose for your AD? Appreciate of you could email me wanlinz84@yahoo.com.sg. My AD is Sep this year. PS in Oct last year but some photos turn out to be really blur. Edwin was pretty nice about it, and we managed to get X-Zen to re-print for us...even though up till now we have yet to receive the final album (they told us the new printer will come in May or Jun so we should be getting it soon). Just a caution for those who are selecting your photos - Look at the photos carefully and check thorughly before selecting. When we were choosing the photos it was not blur on the laptop, but when printed in large it became obvious. |
   
weixiang (weixiang_06)
Junior Member Username: weixiang_06
Post Number: 381 Registered: 6-2009
| | Posted on Monday, June 07, 2010 - 11:00 am: |
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to add on to what missy had written, during the selection do ensure that you are looking at 100% instead of resized (miniature) photos.. it is very misleading... especially when you are printing them out in 15R... always ask for viewing at 100% to reconfirm its a sharp photo. for me, i am a pixel sweeper... |
   
littlewoman (lovingyou)
Intermediate Member Username: lovingyou
Post Number: 3191 Registered: 1-2008
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 08, 2010 - 11:23 am: |
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Missy: First of all, congrats... I had tried to PM you; perhaps you might want to turn on your private message?  |
   
Missy (wanlinz)
New member Username: wanlinz
Post Number: 26 Registered: 6-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, June 10, 2010 - 9:26 am: |
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Littlewomoman: My turned on my PM. Let me know ya! Thx  |
   
littlewoman (lovingyou)
Intermediate Member Username: lovingyou
Post Number: 3197 Registered: 1-2008
| | Posted on Thursday, June 17, 2010 - 5:11 pm: |
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Missy: Done...  |
   
Missy (wanlinz)
New member Username: wanlinz
Post Number: 29 Registered: 6-2009
| | Posted on Friday, June 18, 2010 - 12:43 pm: |
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Thanks gal  |